| The
Nature of The Questions
Sooner or later any person who
is interested in "Bible issues" or the "KJV debate" will be confronted
with so-called "probing questions" questioning the purity of the
word of God as found in the KJB. These questions [now usually found
on the Internet] are often presented in a pompous, arrogant
manner typical of the "Autograph Only/KJB critic" crowd.
Since these characters live in a cold, sterile, "logical"
world void of even the possibility of a pure Bible, they
pose these "intelligent and revealing" questions to "unlearned and
ignorant" Bible believers in an attempt to humiliate us
into subjection. Here is an example of their smug, condescending
rhetoric by Gary Hudson after he came up with a list of 40 "unanswerable"
questions,
| While
I could go on with many more questions regarding the growing
facets of "KJV-Onlyism," I have limited them
to these 40. I am sure that Unlearned Men like...
Peter Ruckman, Samuel Gipp, Jack Hyles,
Don Edwards, Herb Evans, Joe Chambers,
David Cloud, D. A. Waite, Walter
Beebe, Jack Chick, Texe Marrs, E.
L. Bynum, William Grady, Floyd Jones,
Dallas Bunch, Brad Weniger, Herbert Noe,
Larry Vance, Ken Johnson, Robert Diehl,
(+ women like Gail Riplinger) and others_____
("Birds of a feather flock together...") of their persuasion,
would like to have the answers to these questions! |
Mr. Hudson’s "grace and
humility" is "like a breath of fresh air" isn’t it? His attitude
and demeanor are a perfect reflection of the Christian ideal. Pardon
my sarcasm, but boisterous, conceited, braggarts "rub me
the wrong way." Not only does Mr. Hudson deem his questions
as unanswerable, he implies his intellect and grasp of the truth
is superior to all the people he named plus all others who may believe
likewise! If one reads much anti-KJB material he soon realizes
personal humility is not a trait these characters strive to manifest.
Nearly all of them think they are more intelligent, more knowledgeable,
more "reasoned," and more spiritual than practically any Christian.
In spite of Mr. Hudson and his
cohorts allusions to knowledge and intelligence, Bible believers
have something they don’t have by their own admission:
the pure, infallible words of the Living God in the KJB. We
can produce the Bible we profess to believe. Hudson and his ilk
cannot. This distinction is what fuels their tirades against Bible
believers. Since we can produce the Bible we believe and they
cannot, this makes them jealous of our "appearance of orthodoxy."
We appear to some as more orthodox, legitimate Christians since
we can produce our final authority, and, of course, appearance is
everything if you are a vain, egotistical, self-serving Bible corrector.
They, instead of us, must appear as "orthodox believers" at whatever
the cost.
In the following we will answer these "unanswerable"
questions. The reader can judge both the merit of the questions
and the answers. We believe the discerning believer will find most
of these "deep, probing questions" from "serious, contemplative
minds" are as shallow as a birdbath. Furthermore, the reader
will soon realize these questions are not true questions at all.
They are not given to gain knowledge or learn something. They are
actually "rhetorical questions"; questions given for dramatic
effect or in an attempt expose a supposed weakness. No answer we
give will satisfy the incorrigible heart of the professional Bible
critic, but our hope is some of our answers will cause one
who is honestly searching for the truth to realize God’s word
does exist in tangible form and is available to all who will pick
up a King James Bible.
| Here is the link to the questions
as found on Hudson's site,
http://www.kjvonly.org/gary/questkjv.htm
Here is a link to answers http://www.angelfire.com/nt/baptist/HE_64questions.html
Bible believer Herb Evans gave to 64 questions by another
KJB critic which appears to be from this site, http://www.bible.ca/b-kjv-only.htm.
Some of these questions are exactly the same
as Hudson's! A little plagiarism going on here boys?
I did review brother Evans' answers
as I was preparing mine, and as one would expect some of
our answers will be similar. When you ask two people who
believe the same about a subject you can expect similiar
answers. But many of the questions from these two websites
are identical without either one giving
the other credit. Typical KJB critic behavior. You be the
judge. |
The Questions Considered
(1) Must we possess
a perfectly flawless bible translation in order to call it "the
word of God"? If so, how do we know "it"
is perfect? If not, why do some "limit" "the word of
God"to only ONE "17th Century English" translation?
Where was "the word of God"prior
to 1611? Did our Pilgrim Fathers have "the
word of God" when
they brought the GENEVA BIBLE translation with them to North
America?
There are 5 questions here; I will answer
each briefly. Some questions will be touched on again in later answers.
a. Not always; let me explain.
If Hudson is referring to the complete and pure word of God
then no English translation other than the AV will qualify. On the
other hand one can have part of "the word of God" in a New Testament,
tract, or quotation. For example, a person cannot be saved apart
from the "word" but this doesn’t mean he must have a complete
Bible. Multitudes have been saved by tracts that only contain
a very small but vital section of the word—the gospel.
What does he mean by "flawless," anyway. We
only contend the true and pure meaning of words or a passage must
be preserved, not that spelling, grammar, sentence construction,
font, etc. must be identical to the "original."
b. How do you know
the "originals" were "perfect"? How do you know their were no typo's
in the autographs? Remember, much of the Bible was penned by scribes,
not the authors. Answer these questions consistantly and you'll
better understand our position.
c. We don’t "‘limit’
‘the word of God’" to the KJB. As we just said a
tract can contain the "word of God" or even another translation
that agrees with the AV in a passage. We do, however, limit
the complete and pure word of God in English to
the KJB. It is our final authority.
d. Before 1611 the "word
of God" was a little here; a little more there; etc. It was spread
all around in various languages and various manuscripts.
One would have to live at the time to make a proper decision as
to which to use and believe. Looking back any English translation
before the AV would have been acceptable [except the Catholic Rheims
version]. The English Bible was in a refining process until 1611.
I'm little concerned where the Bible was 500 years ago, I'm
concerned about where it is today!
e. As for the Geneva Bible,
it contained the "word of God" but it was not the
complete and pure word of God. A little more refining had to be
done.
(2) Were the
KJV translators "LIARS" for
saying that "the very meanest [poorest] translation"
is still "the word of God"?
No, they were not liars for saying that, but
all men are liars anyway [Rom. 3:4] including Hudson
and myself. This is why all men’s words must be "tried."
The distinction mentioned in answer #1(a) applies here as well.
The KJV translators did not say "the very meanest translation"
was the complete and pure word of God, but that it can
convey elements of the word of God. If they thought this "meanest"
translation was the pure, complete word then why would they
spend over seven years giving the English language a "better" version?
(3) Do you believe
that the Hebrewand
Greek used
for the KJV are "the word of God"?
Of course! However, even
if we knew precisely which Hebrew and Greek the KJ translators used,
it would be of little value to English speaking people. On the other
hand, I do not believe the texts the KJ translators did
NOT use are the word of God where they differ from the KJB.
(4) Do you believe
that the Hebrew and Greek underlying the KJV can "correct"
the English?
(5)Do
you believe that the English of the KJV "corrects"
its own Hebrew and Greek texts from which it was
translated?
No in both cases. I do believe, however, that
KJB English defines the proper definition of the
Hebrew or Greek.
(6) Is ANY translation
"inspired"? Is
the KJV an "inspired translation"?
(7) Is
the KJV "scripture"? Is IT
"given by inspiration of God"? [2 Tim. 3:16]
Yes on all counts, but let me clarify. The
KJB is the pure word of God, originally given by inspiration, preserved
in English. Therefore, the KJB itself must be "inspired"
to use your term. It is given by inspiration in that it is the preserved
word. We don’t contend God’s word had to be
"reinspired" when it was translated into English. God’s
word is living and cannot die. It would have to be dead
to be "reinspired" or teach "double inspiration." All the
attributes of the word of God apply to the KJB [inerrant, infallible,
pure, scripture, etc.].
(8)WHEN
was the KJV "given by inspiration of God"
—1611... or any of the KJV major/minor
in 1613, 1629, 1638, 1644, 1664, 1701, 1744, 1762, 1769, and the
last one in 1850?
When God gave His word originally. See #6-7
above.
(9)In
what language did Jesus Christ [not Peter Ruckman and others]
teach that the Old Testament would be preserved forever according
to Matthew 5:18?
Another "loaded" rhetorical question. First,
Christ doesn’t mention any "language" in Matt. 5:18,
but we know the game Hudson is playing. He wants to make a big deal
out of the words "jot" and "tittle," but look both words up in an
English dictionary. Jot means, "the least bit: iota" [a
Greek term]. Tittle means, "1: a point or small sign used as a diacritical
mark in writing or printing 2: A very small part." So what
Christ is saying is simply the smallest part of the law [like a
dot for an "i" or cross for a "t"] will not go unfulfilled. What
language did Christ say this in? Who knows. If you know Mr. Hudson,
let us know, but remember, you must prove it.
(10)Where
does the Bible teach that God will perfectly preserve His Word in
the form of oneseventeenth-century
English translation?
More rhetoric. Where did we or any other Bible
believer claim this could be found in the Bible? For that matter
where in the Bible does God say He will preserve the Bible
in only the original languages or that only the original languages
can convey His pure word? "Straw man" questions like this
reveal Hudson’s conceit.
(11)Did
God lose the words of the originals when the "autographs"were destroyed?
The God of the Bible hasn’t lost anything.
What kind of weakling God are you talking about, Hudson? The
only people who have lost these idolized manuscripts are Bible correctors
who come near to worshipping them. We Bible believers believe
God’s word will endure as He has preserved it among His people
in its purity forever.
(12)Did
the KJV translators mislead their readers by saying that
their New Testament was "translated
out of the original Greek"? [title page of KJV
N.T.] Were they "liars"for
claiming to have "the original Greek"
to translate from?
No, they were much more honest than
most "scholars" today. The question is misleading. The
title page at the beginning of the 1611 King James Bible says it
was "translated from the original tongues" [languages] clarifying
their "original Greek" statement on the NT title page. Clearly they
were referring to the original Greek language. They didn’t
claim to have the original autographs.
(13) Was "the
original Greek"lost
after 1611?
Why no. Much to the dismay of modern Bible
correctors the original Greek autographs dissolved into dust many
centuries earlier. Who needs them anyway? God doesn’t
need them, we Bible believers don’t need them. The
only people who seek them [like the Jews sought the brazen serpent]
are "Autograph Only" Bible correctors like Hudson.
(14) Did the
great Protestant Reformation (1517-1603) take
place without "the word of God"?
As we said the word of God was available before
1611, just not in pure, complete form in English. If God
can save a soul with a few spoken words or a few words written on
a tract, He can cause a reformation or revival from incomplete Bibles
as well. Everybody knows God’s word was available
in several different forms and languages before 1611.
(15)What
copy or translations of "the word of God,"used by the Reformers, was absolutely infallible
and inerrant? [their main Bibles are well-known
and copies still exist].
None of them at least not in English. They
all needed refining to be made pure.
(16) IF...
the KJV is "God's infallible and preserved word to
the English-speaking people,"did the "English-speaking
people" have "the word of God"from 1525-1604?
The English-speaking people did have "the
word of God" but they didn’t yet have "God’s infallible
and preserved word to the English speaking people." Actually
they had more of the word of God than people who use one of the
modern translations today. How pitiful. Modern scholarship has defrauded
believers out of the pure word of God and given them translations
inferior to those used by Christians over 400 years ago!
(17)Was
Tyndale's [1525], or Coverdale's [1535],
or Matthew's [1537], or the Great [1539],
or the Geneva [1560]... English Bibles absolutely
infallible?
No. We explained why in previous answers.
These were Bibles in transition.
(18) If neither
the KJV nor any other one version were absolutely inerrant, could
a lost sinner still be "born again"
by the "incorruptible
word of God"? [1 Peter 1:23]
Though I normally don’t answer hypothetical
questions [there is no way to prove a hypothetical answer], I will
this one. Of course a sinner could be saved. All he needs
is access to an uncorrupted portion of God’s word that contains
the gospel. This could be found in a tract, book, or even spoken.
As another has said, "Before the word of God as a whole was completed,
it was still the word of God in part." Think, Christian, the apostle
Paul did not even have the complete word of God!
At least four books were written after his death [John’s books]
and he quite likely did not see all the existing NT epistles while
he was alive!
(19)If
the KJV can "correct"the
inspired originals, did the Hebrew and Greek originally "breathed
out by God"need
correction or improvement?
Who believes this? Send me a quote. Talk about
"straw-man" arguments.
(20) Since most
"KJV-Onlyites"believe
the KJV is the inerrant and inspired "scripture"
[2 Peter 1:20],
and 2 Peter 1:21 says that "the prophecy came not in old time
by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved
by the Holy Ghost,"would
you not therefore reason thus — "For the King James
Version came not in 1611 by the will of man: but holy men of God
translated as they were moved by the Holy Ghost"?
Boy, talk about desperate attempts. No,
2 Peter 1:21 is referring to the giving of prophecy. The
KJ translators were not prophets. However, the translators appear
to have been guided by God [in a manner known only by Him] from
looking at their result—the KJB. God has used and
blessed it more than any other Bible in any language.
(21)Which
reading is the verbally (word-for-word)
inerrant scripture — "whom ye"[Cambridge KJV's] or, "whom he"[Oxford
KJV's] at Jeremiah 34:16?
What does it matter? Take your pick. The passage’s
meaning is not affected either way. Looks like a printer’s
error.
(22) Which reading
is the verbally (word-for-word)
inerrant scripture — "sin"[Cambridge KJV's] or "sins"[Oxford
KJV's] at 2 Chronicles 33:19?
Again, take your pick. The term "sin" can
also mean "sins."
(23) Who publishes
the infallible "INERRANT KJV"?
Anybody who wants to. Apart from typographical
errors there should be no difference in any edition from
the major publishers [Cambridge, Oxford, Nelson, etc.].
I have a reprint of the 1611 edition and there is no difference
between it and my Nelson or Cambridge 1769 editions that can be
HEARD while reading apart from the relatively few typographical
printing errors. Of course, there are many spelling and
punctuation differences but these do not affect the words and their
meaning.
Larry Pierce, editor of the Online Bible claims
versions 6 and later of his Bible software contains the exact
King James Bible text of the 1769 edition as provided by Cambridge
Publishers in England. He said Sharp Electronics of Japan
spent a considerable amount of money verifying the accuracy of his
KJB text. This digital edition of the KJB is easily and freely available
to anyone who wants it, thus anyone who desires can print
it themselves. [Don’t try to print a copy of the
NIV, though, Zondervan [its publisher] may sue you in court!]
(24) Since the
revisionsof
the KJV from 1613-1850 made (in addition to
changes in punctuation, capitalization, and spelling) many hundreds
of changes in words, word order, possessives, singulars for
plurals, articles, pronouns, conjunctions, prepositions, entire
phrases, and the addition and deletion of words — would you
say the KJV was "verbally inerrant" in 1611... or 1629, 1638,
1644, 1664, 1701, 1744, 1762, 1769, or 1850?
First, what you call "revisions of the KJV"
are not true revisions at all. These are various
editions printed to correct previous printing errors. Not
one edition was to "revise" the words. The intent of these
editions [apart from spelling and punctuation updating] was to restore
the original text given by the translators to the printers.
All of these versions are inerrant
apart from any typographical error. My Nelson KJB, a recent,
modern printing, spells "because" "bcause" in one place. Does this
mean it is not inerrant? Only in the warped mind of an "Autograph
Only."
How do you know, KJB critic, that
the original autographs didn’t have typographical errors in
them? Can you prove your answer from Scripture? Can you
prove Peter, a poor fisherman, dotted every "i" and crossed
every "t" so to speak in his autographs? Why he might have
even misspelled an word or two or even used bad grammar! I have
read "scholars" who claimed Peter’s language and grammar is
inferior to Luke’s. What a revelation! What about the scribes
or writters who actually penned these words after they were spoken?
Tertius penned Romans [Rom 16:22]. How do you know he didn't make
a mistake since he was neither prophet or apostle? These
kind of questions really give you people fits, don’t they?
You pompous egomaniacs don’t even know how to respond to such
questions. That’s because you have locked yourself
into a "logic tight" belief system that won’t even allow God
in. Pathetic; Pitiful.
I asked a similar question to Rick Norris
in response to a letter he sent me a few years ago and he couldn’t
even come up with a sensible reply. Here is what I said,
However, how do you know the autographs
didn't have typos in them? Chapter and verse?....2
Peter 1:21 says "...holy men of God SPAKE...," often someone else
wrote it down (Jer. 36:32). Can you prove they always wrote it down
correctly? What about Peter's "bad grammar" in his epistles? Scholars
say his grammar is much inferior to Luke's. Is errors in grammar
"inspired"? You have plenty of obstacles to overcome with "logic."
Isn't it easier to trust God?
All Norris could come up with for a response
was,
Do you have a completely
Biblical concept of inerrancy? It is clear that inerrancy defined
with reference to the Bible is absolutely no errors of any type
or kind. Logically by definition, it is undeniably true that an
inerrant Bible could not have misprints since misprints are still
errors....
He claims to have a "completely Biblical concept
of inerrancy" that won’t allow an "error" of any kind, but
the problem is he cannot Scripturally prove his "concept"! His concept
of inerrancy is "logically derived" by feeble human logic, not Scripturally
derived. Of course, Norris cannot produce his final authority,
none of his kind can. It is a fantasy Bible that doesn't exist.
(25) Would you
contend that God waited until a king named "JAMES" sat on
the throne of England before perfectly preserving His Word in English,
and would you think well of an "Epistle Dedicatory"that
praises this king as "most dread Sovereign...Your Majesty's
Royal Person..." —IF
the historical FACT was revealed to you that King James was
a practicing homosexual all of his life? [documentation
— Antonia Fraser — "King James VI of Scotland,
I of England" Knopf Publ./1975/pgs. 36-37, 123 || Caroline
Bingham — "The Making of a King" Doubleday Publ./1969/pgs.
128-129, 197-198 || Otto J. Scott — "James
I" Mason-Charter Publ./1976/pgs. 108, 111, 120, 194,
200, 224, 311, 353, 382 || David H. Wilson — "King
James VI ∓mp; I" Oxford Publ./1956/pgs. 36, 99-101,
336-337, 383-386, 395 || plus several encyclopedias]
[Since he apparently could not come up with
any more relevant questions, Hudson starts making personal, ad hominem
attacks. Typical behavior.]
God did not have to wait on anyone to give
His word as He wants the English speaking people to have it. Who
claims that he had to wait?
The King James translators were honoring
the king as the Bible says [1 Peter 2:17]. Even if James
was a sodomite history reveals he was a much more tolerant
king than those in Peter’s day.
The charge that James was a sodomite is often
used by enemies of the AV. Even if he was it would not affect the
integrity of the translation. James did not translate one
word of the Bible that bears his name. He only authorized
its translation in 1603. There is also information in print that
states James was against homosexuality. Furthermore,
there indications that one of James’s enemies started this
rumor after his death.
(26) Would you
contend that the KJV translator, Richard Thomson,
who worked on Genesis-Kings in the Westminster group, was "led
by God in translating"even
though he was an alcoholic that "drank his fill daily"throughout
the work? [Gustavus S. Paine — "The Men
Behind the KJV" Baker Book House/1979/pgs. 40, 69]
Who knows who is led by God and who isn’t?
Only an arrogant, conceited Bible corrector would presume
to know such things. Was the murderer Moses led by God?
Was the adulterer David led by God? Was the polygamous Solomon led
by God? How can one prove if a person is led by God or not?
(27)
Is it possible that the rendition "gay clothing,"in
the KJV at James 2:3, could give the wrong impression to the modern-English KJV reader?
I suppose. Some people can get the wrong impression
from anything. Some misguided souls get the wrong impression
from 2 Tim. 3:16 and think the term "Scripture" in the passage refers
to only the "original autographs." Any
person who wants the truth will find the truth. You can't blame
the Bible because some people wish to remain ignorant.
(28)Did
dead people "wake up"in
the morning according to Isaiah 37:36 in the KJV?
There is no "wake up" in Isaiah 37:36.
Did you not think we would check the passage, Hudson? We do find
in the verse where some people "arose" and found those who had been
smitten by the angel were now "all dead corpses."
(29)Was
"Baptist"John's
last name according to Matthew 14:8 and Luke 7:20 in the KJV?
Yes, if you want to call it that. "Christ"
could be called Jesus’s last name for that matter.
(30)Is
2 Corinthians 6:11-13
in the KJV understood or make any sense to the modern-English
KJV reader? — "O ye Corinthians, our mouth is
open unto you, our heart is enlarged. Ye are not straitened in us,
but ye are straitened in your own bowels. Now for a recompense in
the same, (I speak as unto my children,) be ye also enlarged."
As clearly understood
from the New International Version [NIV] — "We
have spoken freely to you, Corinthians, and opened wide our hearts
to you. We are not withholding our affection from you, but you are
withholding yours from us. As a fair exchange
—I speak
as to my children —open
wide your hearts also."
It makes sense to those who want the sense
of it. Who said the Bible was supposed to read like a cheap
novel? Sometimes it takes a little effort to get the gist
of a passage.
Furthermore, after all the hype above about
the KJB supposedly "correcting the Greek," why do you use
the NIV here which adds words to the passage not found in the Greek?
Apparently you believe the NIV "corrects the Greek" since you use
it instead of the Greek. Your duplicity is evident to all, Hudson.
You have different standards for the KJB than you do the
NIV.
(31)
Does the singular "oath's,"occurring in every KJV at Matthew 14:9 and
Mark 6:26, "correct"every
Textus Receptus Greek which has the plural ("oaths")
by the post-1611
publishers, misplacing the apostrophe?
So you will accept the NIV’s adding
of words not found in any Greek text, but you not accept the reading
of "oath’s"? The translators were following the context
in these passages and translated accordingly. There is
only one "oath" referred to in the passages [Matt. 14:7].
(32)Did
Jesus teach a way for men to be "worshiped"according to Luke 14:10 in the KJV, contradicting
the first commandment and what He said in Luke 4:8? [Remember
— you may not go the Greek for any "light" if you
are a KJV-Onlyite!]
There is no need to go to the Greek. All one
needs to do is look up the definitions of "worship" in any
good dictionary. You will find the term can be defined
as, "greatness of character;
honor; dignity; worthiness" in addition to worshipping
God.
(33) Is the Holy
Spirit an "it"according
to John 1:32; Romans 8:16, 26; and 1 Peter 1:11 in the KJV?
[Again — you may not go the Greek for any "light"
if you are a KJV-Onlyite!]
Yes. Christ is also called "it" in Rev. 12:4.
What’s your problem. "It" is a common expression for people
in English. [Who’s there? "It’s me!]
(34)Does
Luke 23:56 support a "Friday" crucifixion in the KJV? [No
"day" here in Greek]
No. As for there being no "day" in Greek,
then what kind of Sabbath was it if it wasn’t a Sabbath
Day? Where is the "commandment" for a Sabbath other than
a Sabbath day?
(35)Did
Jesus command for a girl to be given "meat"to eat according to Luke 8:55 in the KJV?
[or, "of them that sit at meat with thee." at Luke 14:10]
Sure. Of course you know that "meat" means
food in the Bible. "Flesh" in the Bible means "meat" as we use it
today.
(36)Was
Charles Haddon Spurgeon a "Bible-corrector"for saying that Romans 8:24 should be rendered
"saved in hope," instead
of the KJV's "saved by hope"? [Metropolitan
Tabernacle Pulpit Vol 27, , page 485 — see more
Spurgeon KJV comments in , his ∓mp; many others' views in the
article, ]
Indeed he was. I’m glad you recognized
it. "Saved by hope" is correct.
(37)Was
J. Frank Norris a "Bible-corrector"for saying that the correct rendering of John
3:5 should be "born of water and the Spirit,"and
for saying that "repent and turn"in
Acts 26:20 should be "repent, even turn"? [Norris-Wallace
Debate, 1934, pgs. 108, 116]
Yes, same here. You don’t get the picture
do you, Hudson. Anyone who corrects the Bible is a Bible-corrector.
Norris did a lot of things in his ministry right, but this is one
area where he is dead wrong.
Also, is Norman
Pickering an "Alexandrian Apostate"
for stating, "The
nature of language does not permit a 'perfect' translation
—the semantic
area of words differs between languages so that there is seldom
complete overlap. A 'perfect' translation of John 3:16 from Greek
into English is impossible, for we have no perfect equivalent for
"agapao" [translated "loved" in John 3:16]."?
I don’t know about being an "Alexandrian
Apostate," but from this statement one can see he is [was] a very
narrow-minded and presumptuous man. Imagine someone saying
it is impossible for God to make a "perfect" translation of a word.
"Impossible" means impossible.
(38)Was
R. A. Torrey "lying"when he said the following in 1907 — "No one, so far as
I know, holds that the English translation of the Bible is absolutely
infallible and inerrant. The doctrine held by many is that the Scriptures
as originally given were absolutely infallible and inerrant, and
that our English translation is a substantially accurate rendering
of the Scriptures as originally given"? [Difficulties
in the Bible, page 17]
Could not Torrey just have been ignorant and
mistaken instead of lying? "Lying" means he intended to deceive.
I will give him the benefit of the doubt. Torrey apparently
ran in limited circles since he did not encounter any one who believed
the Bible they had [KJB] was infallible. Or did he mean
only "orthodox scholars"?
(39)Is
Don Edwards correct in agreeing "in favor of canonizing
our KJV,"thus
replacing the inspired canon in Hebrew and Greek?
[The Flaming Torch, June 1989, page 6]
I don’t know the context of Edward’s
statement but let’s look at the definitions,
canonize -ized,
-izing
1 to
declare (a deceased person) a saint in formal church procedure
2 to
glorify
3 to
put in the Biblical canon
4 to
give church sanction or authorization to
The 1st and 3rd definitions can’t apply,
but why can’t the 2nd and 4th? Can a church or group
not "glorify" the KJB? Can an independent church not "sanction"
or "authorize" the KJB for use? I don’t see why not.
You do believe in religious freedom, don’t you?
As for replacing the "inspired canon in Hebrew
and Greek," does this mean you believe the available Greek
and Hebrew texts are "the inspired canon"? As another has
said, "Hebrew for the Hebrews, Greek for the Greeks, English for
the English and we will all be fine."
(40) Did God
supernaturally "move His Word from the original languages
to English"in 1611 as affirmed by The Flaming Torch? [same page
above]
I don’t know about "move His word" but
I believe He definitely did COPY His word in all its purity
to the English language in 1611. The methods He used are
unknown to me and I don’t profess to know even in the slightest
how God "moves" things or people, but I believe He does it. I
believe God has kept His promises and preserved His word, and we
who speak English have been greatly blessed in that He has chosen
to preserve it in English. Unlike the "archaic" Greek language
which is idolized by the "Autograph Only" God has given
man His word in the most prominent and expressive language on earth
today—English.
The
Results of the Questions
The statement we made earlier
that these questions are rhetorical in nature should now be clear
to the reader. There are no answers we could give that would
be acceptable to Hudson and his crowd; their minds are
made up. For the most part these questions were sarcastic
comments on the position of Bible believers. Only around
10 questions could be considered legitimate.
The reader should also note that
Hudson doesn't hesitate to claim the KJB is not the pure word of
God, but he doesn't offer what he believes to be the pure
word in its place. This is a universal trait among Bible
correctors. They campaign to destroy one's confidence in the KJB
[or any Bible for that matter] but offer NOTHING in return
but unbelief! How does it harm them for believers to believe
they have the pure word of God in tangible form? Why do they so
desperately attempt to undermine this belief? I have my ideas, but
the fact remains they greatly resent that many Christians
believe they have the pure word of God in the King James Bible
and they resort to desperate means to try to convince them they
are wrong. It's not that they have evidence to prove that the KJB
is not pure and they offer a translation they believe is pure,
they offer NOTHING but unbelief! They insist no Bible in
any language is [or can be] inerrant and pure.
Although I believe the NIV is
a corrupt imitation of God's word, I would have more respect
for a person who believed it was inerrant and pure and treated
it as such than I do for these clowns who have "logically
deduced" that no pure Bible is possible. Every saint in the Bible
could produce the Scriptures they believed without
reservation. They believed they had access to the pure, inerrant
words of God. These "Autograph Only" "experts" can produce no Bible
at all. Why would any believer follow them?
How about you, dear reader? Do you want to get saved from
Hell? Why not repent of your sins and trust the Lord Jesus
Christ in faith NOW. If you need help on this area, please
send me an email on vtm@oldkjv.org.
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